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Comparing Landcruiser price with CT scanner is Utter distortation of Fact

03 Aug

 
Since the President of Tanzania Dr.Jakaya Mrisho Kikwete addressed the Nation on 31st July 2012, I have received numerous calls and messages from people asking me, “How much does a CT Scanner cost?”  This is because In his Speech, the President said some people are comparing the price of SUV Landcruiser (shangingi)  to a price of CT scan. He even said jokingly ” Waje Tuwape pesa wakatuletee…Labda waende China”, Well I have one message to Mr. President, ‘even in China, You cannot get a CT for a price of a Landcruiser’.
 
The views am going to write are informed by  my 10 years experience in the Medical Systems Industry-having worked  for Philips Medical Systems and their sole Distributor in Tanzania. I want to share with my readers, and my fellow Tanzanians an insight of what real cost of CT Scan is. As an expert in Finance, I find it prudent to let my readers know what it takes to invest in CT Scan.

What is a CT Scan?

PHILIPS 64 Slice Brilliance CT

X-ray computed tomography, also computed tomography (CT scan) or computed axial tomography (CAT scan), is a medical imaging procedure that utilizes computer-processed X-rays to produce tomographic images or ‘slices’ of specific areas of the body. These cross-sectional images are used for diagnostic and therapeutic purposes in various medical disciplines.

How Much does a CT Scan Cost?  and that is just too broad of a question. It is a little like asking how much a car costs. A Toyota Corolla isn’t going to cost you much… you may be able to just pull it for 5M… but that 2012 Mercedes-Benz C-Class is going to be a touch more expensive.

So in order to make sure you get the CT Scanner you need for the right price you should be ready to answer the following questions:

What types of studies will you be performing?

This will help narrow down on how many Slices per Rotation your scanner will take. For example, if you are performing a lot of Cardiac Studies you should probably buy a 64 Slice CT due to the constant motion of the heart. Whereas Angio and Perfusion studies can often be done effectively with a lower end model  scanners. Answering this question will also determine if you need a unique software option (Cardiac, Fluoro, Perfusion, etc).

Do you prefer a certain manufacturer?

PHILIPS, GE, Siemens, and Toshiba are the 4 big names in CT. If you can only take one of them, you’ve just eliminated 75% of your options. Well i will definately advice you on a Philips CT.

Other Questions Would be; What is your budget? and the size of your medical centre/Hospital.For a hospital like Muhimbili i would suggest a 64 slices and not less  or a 128 Slices if budget allows.

Now i can give you some guidelines for Delivered and Installed pricing on New CT scanners:

  • 16 Slice: $400,000 – $450,000
  • 64 Slice: $800,000 – $900,000
  • 128 Slice: $1,000,000 – $1,200,000
  • 256 Slice: Not less than $1,500,000

Most Companies has  stopped the the manufacturing of 6 Slice scan, unless you get a refurblished one from China.. which will cost about $ 150,000 and above.

Somebody remind me how much does a Brand New SUV Landcruiser cost? Last time I checked it was ranging from USD 60,000 to 80,000….therefore comparing CT Scan and Landcruiser is a satirical gimmick.

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Posted by on August 3, 2012 in General Knowledge, Tanzania News

 

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19 responses to “Comparing Landcruiser price with CT scanner is Utter distortation of Fact

  1. mabao

    August 4, 2012 at 9:02 am

    this is the range price of V8 ,The Petrol GXL is priced at $83,990, and the diesel at $88,990.

     
  2. Msangii

    August 4, 2012 at 11:06 am

    Hapa hospitali Bugando Tumenunua CT scan sijui kampuni gani. imefanya kazi siku moja ikafa. mambo ya kupenda vya rahisi. mashine za philips zina miaka zaidi ya kumi lakini zinafanya kazi na matengenezo ukiwaita wanapatikana haraka. hawa waliotuuzia CT sijui mpaka watoke nchi gani. Serikali iwe makini na wauzaji wa hizi machine. wanunuaji wasiangalie 10% lakini na ubora wa mashine pia na upatikananji wa service kwa haraka.

     
  3. Rashid

    August 4, 2012 at 11:14 am

    so five LandCruiser can buy one 16 Slice Scanner, then how many Landcruiser do we have in the ministries and government offices? Still there is questions deep we have to answer about our willing to some of the critical decision for our country

     
  4. Anna

    August 4, 2012 at 1:37 pm

    Thanks alot Mon for this useful information. I never knew how expensive these things cost duuuh, kweli u cant compare them with Mashangingi hata kidogo, i truly congratulate u, and pls keep up the good work, endelea kutuelimisha with these fruitful and informative news!

     
  5. James

    August 4, 2012 at 2:32 pm

    Thanks for the great information! Well written, however, I am afraid your (including the president) argumentation is very simplistic.

    The comparison between the CT Scan and a land cruiser is a one to one issue – just comparing a single CT Scan towards a single Land cruiser. It is more than that – it is a comparison between health services on one hand and public official privileges. It should be understood that a land cruiser is used as metaphor for all unnecessary expenditures of the government. Someone would argue, if the health of the people is so important, then why not opt for one 128 slice CT Scan instead of 15 land cruisers (which could only be used by one ministry). Can you imagine how much we spend to send people to India just because we don’t have the required diagnostic equipment (including CT Scan) at Muhimbili? Worse still, the lives of people who cant make to India is priceless.

    Professionalism requires smart brains to outsmart political rhetoric ….

    Ignorant

     
    • Fido

      August 5, 2012 at 12:25 am

      Point nzuri umeongea ndugu… safi sana. majibu rahisi kwa maswali magumu. Nadhani wakati mwingine viongozi wetu wanakwepa ukweli ambao wanaujua tu

       
  6. Emmanuel

    August 4, 2012 at 4:08 pm

    Walio fanya comparison ya CT scanner na shangingi hawakumaanisha kwamba bei ni sawa kabisa, hapana. Kama serikali ina mashangingi zaidi ya mia ambayo cost yake ni zaidi ya 10billions kwanini ishindwe kununua CT scanner? Kama ilitumia 56 billions kwaajili ya kuadhimisha miaka 50 ya uhuru kwanin washidwe kununua CT Scanner ya 1.6 to 2.5 billions? Kwahiyo bado JK Aliwachukulia kama hawakujua walisemalo but walikua na akili zao timamu kabisa…kwasababu kuna magar yanauzwa bei hizo na watu wanayo hapa hapa Tanzania sembuse serikali ishindwe. Ni ulimbukeni na ukosefu wa maarifa ndo serikali inautetea. Na ilikuaje enzi hizo wakaweza kununua hiyo mbovu iliyopo? Ndege ya raisi ilinunuliwa sh ngapi? Zilitoka wapi hizo pesa? Uwanja mpya wa taifa ulitengenezwa kwa sh ngapi? Na zilitoka wapi hizo fedha? So alichotakiwa kujibu kama raisi sio kurudi kwenye comparison walizotaja madoctor bali kutoa solution to the problem.

     
  7. Innocent

    August 4, 2012 at 5:22 pm

    really the President was right; but still I think it is manageable to be purchased by our govt. We are operating in a wrong approach in terms of priorities.

     
  8. wlo

    August 4, 2012 at 9:46 pm

    What is so satirical about comparing the two!? Have you checked how much it would exactly cost to have a landcruser VX latest model on the road? 60-80k?? Really? Do you know a latest brand new VX8 plus tax would make you cough about 250,000 dollars and above depending on extras? Have you wondered how many VXs we have unnecessarily in Govt hands? And do you know the monthly maintainance cost of each (about 3,000 USD) In you ‘economical’ maths don’t you think even 16 sliced Scans could be procured in the place of at least two landcruisers? You started well with the blog but it looks like you are also ending up like others- supporting the ruling elite! Pole

     
  9. Richard Henry

    August 4, 2012 at 10:15 pm

    I think we missing the point here! The CT Scan also needs maintanance. Even more expensive. Just like a car! One tube costs about usd 250,000. So still we cant compare the two. And the doctor who said 1 Landcruiser costs 1 CT ndio mkorofi! Alitia Chumvi. The lady here is very right. She based on those speculations and gave her opinion.we shouldnt judge!

     
  10. Happy Joseph

    August 4, 2012 at 11:58 pm

    Ukweli utabaki kwamba Tanzania tuna matumizi mabaya ya fedha za umma, shangingi linanisaidia nini mimi mwananchi wa namtumbo na wakati zahanati haina hata sindano mpaka nikanunue dukani. Acheni kutetea maovu, 2015 lazima tuwaumbue, siku za CCM zinahesabika.

     
  11. Happy Joseph

    August 5, 2012 at 12:04 am

    Nawaunga mkono sana “wlo, August 4, 2012 at 9:46 pm” na “James August 4, 2012 at 2:32 pm” u have nailed it kabisa sihitaji kurudia mliyoyasema, but a human being with half a brain will understand wht u said made far more sense than someone who condemns the ones who have compared a CT scanner and a land cruiser..ilikuwa ni ligha ya picha tu.

     
    • AmorT

      August 5, 2012 at 12:12 pm

      Sasa Happy Kwa nini Yule Daktari na akili zake hakutoa mchanganuo halisi akakimbilia kusema Bei ya CT ni sawa na Landcruiser? Alitamka hadharani na tukasikia. hudhani kama huo ni upotoshaji wa maana. Huyu mwandishi kapatia..kajibu hoja hiyo hiyo ilivyotolewa na sisi wananchi tulielewa hivo. na tukataka kila hospitali iwe na CT kama ni kweli. Angetumia data kama hizi sasa nilikuwa nailaumu serikali lakini kapotosha maana namuona na yeye ni walewale kutafuta umaarufu tu.

       
  12. Kidjo

    August 5, 2012 at 12:05 pm

    Mchangiaji hapo juu, kama wanalinganisha na landcruiser nyingi basi tunaweza kusema bei ya CT scanner ni sawa na bei ya kalamu kwa sababu ukichukua bei ya kalamu moja ukazidisha mara fulani utapata bei ya CT scanner. Kama ni hivyo kuna significance gani kuifananisha na bei ya gari?
    However, ukweli ni kwamba hatushindwi kuwa na CT scanners nyingi lakini ili tuwe nazo ni lazima wataalam waseme kuwa hicho ni kipaumbele katika sekta ya afya. Ni kichekesho kutumia limited resources kununua CT scanners wakati kuna watu wanakufa kwa kukosa medical oxygen! Yes we need CT scanners, lakini hatujafikia hatua za kuzifanya kipaumbele.

     
  13. Annonymous

    August 5, 2012 at 12:08 pm

    Mi nilisoma kwenye mtandao wa JF wameandika hivi! “Dr. Chitage: Mashine moja ya CT scan ni sawa na bei ya Toyata shangingi moja! ….Katibu wa jumuiya ya madaktari nchini ameweka wazi kuwa bei ya mashine moja ya CT scan ni sawa na bei ya kununulia shangingi moja.Alisema kama serikali ingekuwa na nia ya kununua mashine hiyo isingeshindwa. kwa habari zaidi soma gazeti la mwananchi la leo.” hii ilikuwa post ya tarehe 1 July. Nikashangaa huyu Daktari mzima anahadaa watu. Ni kutaka tu uonekane nawewe umetoa hoja.Mwandishi hakukosea walisema CT MOJA NI SAWA NA SHANGINGI MOJA! Afadhali ametokea mtu wa kusema ukweli. sasa angalia maneno haya ya uchochezi yanaleta madhara gani kwa wananchi na serikali yao.

     
  14. abdul hussein

    August 8, 2012 at 9:05 am

    ..that’s immature argument! kwa hiyo anachotaka kusema JK ni kwamba eti Tz hatuna CT Scan sababu ya fedha/gharama??? na nyie mnaamini???? eti mna’support!! wap akili zenu wasomi wetu???au nyie sio wananchi wa kawaida??? Kila mwenye akili na aliyewahi kuguswa na uduni wa health care delivery system yetu awezi kushabikia upuuzi alioongea JK that day!

    Bei ya shangingi la mkurugenzi tu ni sh.200MILIONI! ok’ let’s assume ni $80’000 kama aliyepost anavodai..

    Serikali inanunua zaidi ya mashangingi 500 kwa mwaka.
    500x $80,000 = $40,000,000
    $40,000,000/250,000 = CT scan 160

    Wakitumia 5% ya hiyo fedha kununua vifaa hivyo vilivyo aghari sana kwa serikali ya CCM
    kila mwaka watanunua CT Scan 8
    KWa miaka 10 ya utawala wa Kikwete tu angweza kununua CT Scan 80 at minimum.

    Rais wa nchi alijiabisha kukwoti usemi huu kama utetezi wa kushindwa kununua CT scan,
    Vitabuni bei ya shaangingi huzidi $150,000 ukijumlisha Matengenezo yake ya miaka 3 tu unanunua CT Scan ya nguvu!
    na Shangingi anatumia mtu mmoja tu! wakati wanaohitaji CT Scan kwa Dar tu ni 56/day! na elewa kuwa shangingi unaweza ku’substute kwa gari ingine ambayo ni bei rahisi zaidi lakini CT Scan uta’substute na nini??? assume watu 56 kila siku wenye Brain tumors, Stroke, Traumatic brain injury(TBI), Toxoplasmosis and other CNS infections wanahitaji CT Scan ili waweze kuanzishiwa management lakini wanakosa! Hao ni dada, kaka, mama, ndugu, bibi, babu, na pengine mama na baba zetu au watu wetu wa karibu! MIMI BINAFSI BIBI YANGU ALIFARIKI MWEZI DECEMBER 2011 wakati wa X-mass kwa sababu ya Stroke!alipata attack 2kampeleka muhimbilli CT Scan mbovu, wakashindwa kujua kama ni Hemorrhagic au ni Ischemic stroke! akakaa bila matibabu yoyote hadi mauti ilipomkuta! I can’t forget jinsi wazazi walivolia….

    Na kuna info kuwa CT Scan iliyopo muhimbili sio serikali ilinunua, http://www.nyumbanidoctor.com/ct-scan-ya-muhimbili-aikununuliwa-na-serikali.

    kama wewe ni Msomi ungeshaelewa kwanini Yule Dr. Alisema yale Maneno mwenye akili na Mwelevu angekuwa keshaelewa kuwa govt na Raisi ilitukanwa huku yeye Siku akiongelea hili anachekacheka tu na bado akuzinduka hata waandishi walimchomekea china unaweza pata akazidi kukenua tu… nimeshangaa kama akugundua kuwa alidhihakiwa kwani Nchi haiwezi kushindwa kununua CT Scan. na yy ajazungumza kuwa wanaweza kununua CT Scan!au hata kuitengeneza hiyo ambayo ilikua mbovu kwa zaidi ya miezi 7..

    Regency Medical Centre na Aga khan Hospital zinaweza.. Sababu wana Uongozi Bora au Wana pesa kuliko Serikali ya Kikwete?
    Serikali ya Kikwete haina uwezo wa Kununua Mitambo ya Kuzalisha Umeme na Inaamua Kukodisha kwa Richmond? Richmond????
    Serikali ya Kikwete Haina Uwezo wa Kuboresha Elimu na Shule!! serikali haina uwezo wa kujenga Hospitali zilizokamilika na zinazotoa huduma bora!! serikali haina uwezo wa hili au lile! LAKINI serikali hiyo hiyo inanunua mashangingi, rada kwa bei yakutupwa, ndege ya rais mbovumbovu, inawalipa wabunge mshahara mara kumi ya mshahara wa Dr mwenye M.D!! inatumia 5Trillion kwenye mashangingi ya maofisa wake/top layer!!huku public transport ya watanzania ni mbovu hakuna!eti serikali haina uwezo!!

    Naomba tuwe makini katika kuchambua mambo na kueneza taarifa, tuwe tunasukumwa na maslahi ya taifa na well-being ya watu wetu kwanza, na sio ushabiki au eti na ili na wewe uonekane pia umeongea au umetoa facts! That’s immaturity!y watu wenye akili awa’argue hivyo..

    and that’s why I hate most of Tz bloggers! ni watu wa mipasho, udaku na kupenda “news” sana na hawapo makini katika kupresent facts…..

     
    • Anna - Muhimbili Radiology Department.

      August 8, 2012 at 12:53 pm

      Abdul Hussein Umeandika Mambo meengi lakini sidhani kama Una Facts. Yote ni kudhania na hearsay. mi nadhani Mwandishi angeanza kutoa majibu hapa kukaa kimya naona nimjibie.. Jamani Ametaka kutupa FACTS tujue bei ya CT mbona mnatetea ujinga? kwa nini doctor aliropoka CT sawa na shangingi moja halafu mtulazimishe kuelewa kuwa hakumaanisha moja? … haya hiyo lik ya Nyumbani doctor “Na kuna info kuwa CT Scan iliyopo muhimbili sio serikali ilinunua” … another Lie.. kwanza muhimbili hawana 64Slices CT iko Regency. Na ya Muhimbili ni only 6slices ambayo ni part ya ORET project na sio msaada. wasiliana na wizara wakupe Facts za huo mradi. Philips sio Charity organisation. Na pia Hiyo project ya kuweka ma xray hospitali 98 haikuwa mkopo wa riba. Hapana. Ni pesa ya Grant from Netherlands na part ililipwa na serikali. Acheni Uzushi. Hizo pesa zote walilipwa Philips na baada ya mradi change ikabaki wizara ya Afya ikaamua wapewe CT moja, Xray 3 kwa wilaya mpya ambazo hazikupata xray mwanzoni na Vitabu kwa ajili ya chuo kikuu cha madaktari MUHAS.

      Nyie leteni tu hoja nyingine sio kuzusha msiyoyajua. Pigeni simu pale Wizarani ongea na meneja mradi wa Philips/Govt ORET anaitwa James Boyi pata data za ukweli.

       

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